jt2005a5Current Turn: Frede 10.5 Minion. Old turns: Frede 10.5 alf 10.4 Ghost 10.3 Fiber 10.2 Frede 9.5 alf 9.4 Ghost 9.3 Fiber 9.2 Jay Kristoff 9.1 Frede 8.5 alf 8.4 Ghost 8.3 Fiber 8.2 Jay Kristoff 8.1 Frede 7.5 alf 7.4 Ghost 7.3 Fiber 7.2 Jay Kristoff 7.1 Frede 6.5 alf 6.4 Ghost 6.3 Fiber 6.2 Jay Kristoff 6.1 Frede 5.5 alf 5.4 Ghost 5.3 Fiber 5.2 Jay Kristoff 5.1 Frede 4.5 alf 4.4 Ghost 4.3 Fiber 4.2 Jay Kristoff 4.1 Frede 3.5 alf 3.4 Ghost 3.3 Fiber 3.2 Jay Kristoff 3.1 Frede 2.5 alf 2.4 Ghost 2.3 Fiber 2.2 Jay Kristoff 2.1 Frede 1.5 alf 1.4 Ghost 1.3 Fiber 1.2 Jay Kristoff 1.1 View old turn --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14:10 6/8 [Frede] START OF UNTAP PHASE. 14:20 6/8 [Frede] replacing wake 14:20 6/8 Frede draws from library 14:21 6/8 Frede untaps. 14:22 6/8 [Frede] START OF MINION PHASE. 14:22 6/8 Tap Gaël Pilet 14:23 6/8 [Frede] Gael attempt to recruit Carlton Van Wyk and play inferior The Missing Voice 14:23 6/8 Move Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter) to Frede's ashheap 14:23 6/8 Frede draws from library 14:25 6/8 Move The Missing Voice to Frede's ashheap 14:25 6/8 Frede draws from library 14:26 6/8 [Frede] blocks? 21:07 6/8 [Ghost] Best ally ever... 02:41 6/9 [alf] no block 04:20 6/9 [Fiber] no block... 04:48 6/9 Move Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter) to Frede's ready region 04:48 6/9 Frede's pool was 11, now is 9. 04:59 6/9 Added 2 blood to Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter), now 2. 05:00 6/9 Tap Sir Walter Nash 05:00 6/9 Move Kine Resources Contested to Frede's ashheap 05:00 6/9 Frede draws from library 05:00 6/9 [Frede] blocks? 05:01 6/9 [Frede] if not conditions are fiber 3. alf 1 05:58 6/9 [alf] no block 21:03 6/9 [Ghost] I'll toss the Edge in favour, if needed. 00:01 6/10 [Ghost] (But only if needed) 01:12 6/10 [Fiber] no block... 02:22 6/10 [Ghost] Votes to the table, please... 03:55 6/10 [Frede] Fiber and Alf are opposed I am sure. thats 8. I have 6 in favor. 03:56 6/10 Move Voter Captivation to Frede's ashheap 03:56 6/10 Frede draws from library 03:56 6/10 [Frede] urgh wrong card 03:57 6/10 Move hand #7 to Frede's library 03:57 6/10 Move Voter Captivation to Frede's hand 03:58 6/10 Shuffle Frede's library 03:58 6/10 Move Bewitching Oration to Frede's ashheap 03:59 6/10 [Frede] there. 4 more in favor, passes 10-8. I intend to cap it of course. Revealed the dark side has been. 03:59 6/10 [Frede] anyone have any reactions or additional votes? 04:01 6/10 [Ghost] None here... we can assume it passes at least, so go ahead and play VC 04:19 6/10 Move Voter Captivation to Frede's ashheap 04:19 6/10 [Frede] (provided it does - in fact - pass) 04:21 6/10 [Frede] I can't do other actions until this has been completely resolved, sorry. 04:32 6/10 [Ghost] No worries 23:41 6/10 [Ghost] ... 06:56 6/12 [Frede] ... 14:06 6/12 Fiber's pool was 5, now is 2. 14:06 6/12 [Fiber] successful 14:07 6/12 Frede draws from library 14:07 6/12 Frede draws from library 14:08 6/12 Frede's pool was 9, now is 11. 14:08 6/12 alf's pool was 7, now is 6. 14:09 6/12 Tap Gideon Fontaine 14:09 6/12 Tap Creepshow Casino 14:09 6/12 Move Conservative Agitation to Frede's ashheap 14:09 6/12 Frede draws from library 14:11 6/12 [Frede] Gideon calls a CA. If not blocked conditions are Fiber 3, Myself 1. 6 in favor. Blocks? 14:36 6/12 [Fiber] Alf, better block... I could not block. 21:08 6/12 [Ghost] No interference. Will throw Edge in favour, iff needed. 21:09 6/12 [Ghost] (Actually, Fiber only has 2 pool...) 21:40 6/12 [Frede] I can still put 3 on Fiber... shouldn't matter though... alf? 23:46 6/12 [Ghost] Can you? Always thought you couldn't do that... doesn't matter to me though. 01:31 6/13 [Frede] well I think so. You can bleed for 3 when people have 2 pool left after all 01:32 6/13 [Frede] If I can't I'll just put the last point on YOU MUHAHAH :) 01:33 6/13 [Frede] or more seriously, I'll make it 2 Fiber, 2 myself. It should be academic. 03:00 6/13 [Ghost] Agreed. Err, on the academic part, not on the " 03:00 6/13 [Ghost] "On me" part :) 07:05 6/13 [Fiber] Alf, don't get confused by all this "i take 2" crap... Try to block if you could... If not, Frede's going to win.... 07:07 6/13 [Fiber] And Ghost, i don't understand why are you making all this... Fairly, you must try to win the table, and it's doubtful 07:07 6/13 [Fiber] you would make anything helping frede... 09:51 6/13 [alf] no block. 09:52 6/13 [alf] there's no prob making it 3/1. 10:25 6/13 [Frede] okay 3/1 then. How do you vote? 11:34 6/13 [alf] Cardano votes 2 in favour . 11:36 6/13 [alf] Sorry Fiber, I no longer see a chance to gain more than 1 VP. I chose to take a deal with Wes and Frede. 11:38 6/13 [Frede] so passing 8-6. Unless Fiber springs a surprise I offer Ghost and Alf a withdrawal. 11:42 6/13 [alf] Yeah. My deck was built around Cardano/Ankara Citadel. Not played before and def. needs some tweaking. But the Sens.Dep 11:42 6/13 [alf] shut me down regardless what my deck would have looked like. No chance of putting any forward pressure. I'm happy with 11:43 6/13 [alf] with 1 VP. Still a good game IMO. 11:51 6/13 [Frede] aye. its strange really. I have a pile of Bewitching Orations but only drew one. Would have gotten them eventually tho. 11:51 6/13 [Frede] Always a bit flat to end a game with a deal. Especially for Fiber I suppose, sorry matey. 21:25 6/13 [Ghost] Ok, so vote passed? 21:37 6/13 [Ghost] Fiber, if you have doubts about the fairness of this, by all means speak to George. 21:37 6/13 [Ghost] But, unless directed by a judge, I plan to take my measly 1 VP and be happy. 21:39 6/13 [Ghost] I won't be upset if you challenge the legality of this. It's your right, as far as I am concerned. 07:25 6/14 [Fiber] Obviously i would like George's opinion about this... I think you could have more than 1 VP... Ghost, could you contact 07:25 6/14 [Fiber] him so he could say something about it ? 07:26 6/14 [Fiber] And alf, IF WE HAS A PUBLIC AGREEMENT, AT LEAST I EXPECT YOU ABIDE IT. (I could understand ghost, but you made an agree 07:26 6/14 [Fiber] ent with me, i don't think it's fair you change your opinion). 07:27 6/14 [Fiber] Alf, if i finish with Ghost, the sensory deprivation goes out.... Btw. 09:43 6/14 [George] So as I see it there is dispute about cardano's vote for the ousting vote? 09:44 6/14 [George] or is it broader, as in the validity of the 3-1-1 tablesplit deal happening before the vote? 09:45 6/14 [George] can people email me their rationale, and the timing of deals? 14:10 6/14 [alf] So what? Fiber and me had a deal, in which we both would get 2/2. He might get Fiber and would help me with Frede. 14:13 6/14 [alf] I'm free to break that deal, ain't I? As it was seen Frede only needs 1 Bewitching Oration to get Fiber. After Frede ha 14:14 6/14 [alf] has Carlton VW I don't see me gettng anything done that counts, more like getting ousted by Ghost. 14:16 6/14 [alf] If Fiber is gone I don't have any chance for a VP. So me thinks: 1 in hand is better than 2 on the roof :-)) 14:18 6/14 [alf] Dunno wether it's relevant but Fiber might also be tempted to not let me withdraw and try to get a game win despite our 14:19 6/14 [alf] deal. That would mean max 1 VP that I also get in this deal. 14:20 6/14 [alf] AND: even when the Sens. Dep. is gone Cardano is still empty and most of my vamps are low on blood. 14:23 6/14 [alf] IMO I'm not forced to conclude a deal when I doubt that it works any longer. 15:01 6/14 [Frede] the deal happens between the two votes (for 3-1-1) - at a time where I still have to replace a few cards. 15:02 6/14 [Frede] there is about 1/3 that I will draw a Bewitching Oration. Alf does not know this exactly. 15:03 6/14 [Frede] in my best judgement, alf would go before Ghost in this game 15:04 6/14 [Frede] But fiber would be the first to go. The reason I agree is that I am concerned that my votepush is far down the pile and 15:04 6/14 [Frede] something - however unlikely - costs me the gw 15:05 6/14 [Frede] I certainly do not believe the deal was illegal - if I had I would not have ,made it 15:06 6/14 [Frede] Not sure it is relevant at all but as it happens I have in the meantime concluded another game for a 3-2 win 15:06 6/14 [Frede] a glance at the standings reveal that I need a sweep here for a shot at the finals 15:07 6/14 [Frede] But the split deal was made BEFORE this was clear. I wouldn't mind a shot at a sweep but I will stand by the deal here. 15:08 6/14 [Frede] If judged legal of course (which i think it should be) 15:09 6/14 [Frede] I just mention it for completeness. let me know if you have any questions George 20:59 6/14 [Ghost] Emailing George, as requested. 21:47 6/14 [Ghost] I guess we wait for George's decision now. 18:09 6/15 [George] I think the deal is legal. Anything else? 22:28 6/15 [Ghost] So, unless FIber has a Delaying Tactics, I guess we're done? 04:41 6/16 [Fiber] No delaying... 04:43 6/16 [Fiber] But Alf, a free advice, if you continue to make pacts that you could drop whenever you think it's not the best for you. 04:44 6/16 [Fiber] you would get far in this game (a bit of sarcasm before dying)... 11:54 6/16 [alf] Hi Fiber, sorry for any inconvenience I might have given to you. I'm in no position to win this game on my own. 11:55 6/16 [alf] And I currently don't see you as very strong either. I might be totally wrong but you didn't much to convince me that 11:56 6/16 [alf] that you'r a big help either. Deflecting back to Frede would have been something for a start. But you chose not to ... 11:58 6/16 [alf] And deals are deals. You can break them, and I think in the long run it's good for deals to be broken. At least IMO. 12:00 6/16 [alf] Good for the game I mean, naturally. Again: No offence. How did you want to make an impact on this game? If so you 12:03 6/16 [alf] should have told me so that I can see a/your plan. So far I only could see you ousted anyway soon. So taking the 1 VP 12:04 6/16 [alf] is all I can see netting anything at all for me. I'm propably not the first to brake a deal with you so I hope you're 12:05 6/16 [alf] not too mad about it. Still wish you luck in your other games. I'm not very successful at all. Cheers. 12:08 6/16 [Frede] Thanks for the game. Don't get bent all out of shape, its just a game ;) bye 13:09 6/16 [alf] what about Wes' suggestion to continue the game un-officially? I would give it a try. Would you? 19:58 6/16 Fiber's pool was 2, now is 0. 19:58 6/16 alf's pool was 6, now is 5. 19:59 6/16 Move Stanislava to Fiber's ashheap 19:59 6/16 Move Chandler Hungerford to Fiber's ashheap 19:59 6/16 Move Daliyah to Fiber's ashheap 19:59 6/16 Move Ingrid Rossler to Fiber's ashheap 20:00 6/16 Move Iliana to Fiber's ashheap 20:00 6/16 Frede's pool was 11, now is 17. 02:17 6/17 [Frede] I am not sure continuing the game is good for my mental health 02:17 6/17 [Frede] one thing is to (in effect) deal yourself out of the finals 02:18 6/17 [Frede] it would be aggrevating if breaking that (our) deal would give me a sweep 02:19 6/17 [Frede] I prefer to live in ignorance - hope you understand:) 02:24 6/17 [Frede] Alternatively, we forget the deal and play on;) 03:42 6/17 [Ghost] My life philosophy is based on living in ignorance... I understand :) 03:42 6/17 [Ghost] Besides, you're just scared I would win! 03:43 6/17 [Ghost] Scared-cat! Scaredy cat! :) 13:22 6/17 [alf] OK. So it's over? 13:25 6/17 [alf] Wes: In this case can you line me up for a new game? I want to create another deck first but would like to continue ... 13:26 6/17 [alf] playing. Thanks all for a marginally good (for me) but interesting game ;-)) 13:28 6/17 [alf] Still wondering what Jay's deck could have done if it wasn't nuked that early ... 14:44 6/17 Ghost draws from library 14:45 6/17 Ghost draws from library 14:45 6/17 Ghost draws from library 14:45 6/17 Ghost draws from library 14:45 6/17 Ghost draws from library 21:06 6/17 [Ghost] Good game, everyone.